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GoogleZachary Crumby, 26, and Stephanie Weddle, 25, were arrested by the Bourbon County Sheriff's Office after leaving the Twisters Night Club, on U.S. Highway 69 north of Pittsburg, where they were allegedly involved in a fight which left three individuals injured.
The Crawford County Sheriff's Office received a 911 call at 1:01 a.m. Sunday reporting a large fight at the night club. When the first deputy arrived three minutes later the fight had concluded and a large crowd was in the parking lot, according to a statement from the Crawford County Sheriff's Office.
Twisters Night Club employee Bryan Gill was present and had received serious injury to his jaw and was taken to Mount Carmel Regional Medical Center in Pittsburg by a private vehicle. William Wivel, another employee, had been stuck in the face but required no medical attention. A third individual, Jerry Skaggs, received a shoulder injury in the bar and was also taken to MCRMC by a private vehicle.
Crumby and Weddle were stopped by Bourbon County Undersheriff Bill Martin shortly before 1:30 a.m. Sunday and taken into custody. Crumby was charged with aggravated battery on Gill while Weddle was charged with simple battery on Wivel. Weddle posted a $1,000 bond Sunday and Crumby posted a $25,000 bond Tuesday.
The investigation is still continuing as to what exactly happened causing the injuries to Skaggs.
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so please tell me this isn't the Crumby that represents our community as a Fort Scott Fire Fighter? Am I correct? Wow, its great to know that we have people like this working for our community, not to mention responsible for our LIVES! I hope some disciplinary action is taken. Stricter rules should be inforced as well. I have heard many comments and rumors about the actions of some of our leading personale in several divisions of the city workings.
This, as a former citizen of Fort Scott, I am very disturbed in knowing my relatives reside in that town.
How many times are we going to continue to see "trusted" names and stories about persons we are to trust, look up to, and rely on daily. Something needs changed...
You say you are a "former citizen of Fort Scott" (end quote) But you call yourself fs66701. I have never heard of Crumby, never heard his name, and have no idea who he is so my comment is not based in any way as to defend him. There are several people who post to this site saying they do not live in Fort Scott, and then are critical of the community or something about it. Here is an idea. People who do not live in Fort Scott are not as in touch with, and as familiar as those who do. If people do not live in Fort Scott, then they should go be critical on a page about their own town, and stop sticking their nose in Fort Scott business.
since he wasn't on duty, i dont see how this would refelct upon his ability to do his job...or warrant any discinplinary action at work...
You're right, Zac (no h) is a great person and a very trusting person. He is also very protective over the ones he loves. That being said, maybe Zac was sticking up for his fiance. Kudos to Steph too!!! She never was one for letting a man talk down to her...and I'm sure he will think twice before disrespecting a woman again. Zac was sticking up for his fiance, not that she couldn't handle, but because that's what a loving man does. I expect any other man would have done the same. I would most certainly put my life in his hands. This town couldn't ask for a better person to serve as a firefighter.
Well, I'm a Fort Scott resident and it does bother me that he's representing our community in this manner. Granted, he was off duty when this happned, but he is still a representative of our town whether he's a firefighter or something else. It's sad that they have to be in a Pittsburg bar at that time of night. He should have been doing something else @ 1 AM.
Ok now its my turn after reading this and yes Im gonna let some people have it So if you dont like it tough freedom of speech is my right.
First as for the bar fight. Well if you see the bouncers in Twisters bar they all act like they are Dalton from Roadhouse and Ive seen them in action they are not Angels in anyway, They have caused fights as well, Zac had every right to respond if someone puts their hands on him or his loved ones. I guess you people don't see that from your Ivory towers!! "He was not on duty he was on his own time". I agree Zac is a great firefighter and no action should be taken.
I also agree keep your nose outta FT SCOTT business its people like you who ruin this town with your big mouths and you have no right to even be involved, I say this til you get a clue quit posting as a real Fort Scott resident you have no right to judge or even comment on this event or the people involved.
Most of you people thank God will never have no idea what it is like to to go into a burning building and save people or go to a car wreck and try to save people and see what Zac and his brothers in arms see during the duty times and the price their families pay. Instead your crying over bar bouncers who probably started the fight. I got an idea for all you people who are hating on Zac try this, UNTIL YOU PUT ON BUNKER GEAR FIGHT FIRES AND SAVE PEOPLE IN CAR WRECKS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS ZAC DOES STOP YOUR COMPLAINING" and for you fort scott resident why dont you say that next time you need him when your hurt or your loved ones are you people who hate are a joke and you have now idea what there lives are like until you do Shut up and Dont judge!!
You don't do anything about others who work for the city who get in fights or speed down the streets but if one of the firefighters do it your up in arms but it just goes to show "YOU DONT CARE OR RESPECT THEM AT ALL HOW THEY ARE THERE TO SERVE YOU AND YOU NEVER SAY THANK YOU". Zac those that know you and care got your back you too Steph
Sorry to all you others but it sickens me how people have the nerve to get involved in things they dont have any right to be involved with my best to all of you
Im sorry if i hurt peoples feelings
Mr X
I also live in FS and am dismayed by this man's behavior. I am originally from another state and feel comfortable commenting on the newspaper where I was born and raised and where my family still lives. I KNOW a good number of those people. Does that preclude me from commenting on my home town? Hardly.
What is missing here, is the care one has to to take to preserve their image and character. Not to mention that they represent their employer. No excuse for bad behavior.
Maybe Crumby was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Does a bar fight change the way he can do his job, probably not. But as an emergency responder maybe he should have been thinking ahead and maybe not put himself in that predicament. Like it or not people with certain jobs are held at a higher standard. They know this going into those jobs. If they don't want people butting into their lives and judging them, then maybe they need to change jobs. Its all about responsibility and reliability. No one wants a drunken brawler to fight a fire at their house, or a lying cheating cop to protect their safety, or a money embezzling politician handling their tax dollars. Not in Fort Scott, not anywhere. That's just the way it is. I feel bad for Crumby about this situation, but after all he is an adult and he knows his responsibilities. If he was just an average joe, no one would care that he was involved.
Thanks, Mr. X, for explaining this situation. Let me see if I get this straight now....if someone is a firefighter & goes into burning buildings, POSSIBLY saves lives (I don't know if he has actually carried someone out of a burning building) then all rules/laws don't apply to that person because of their position? Much like the law enforcement folks who speed through town, roll through stop signs, etc knowing that they won't be ticketed by one of their "brothers." I'm sorry but I don't agree with that and never have. It should not be one of the perks that goes with the job. There are ways to handle things and I don't agree with they way this was done. Twisters has been known for years to be a trouble spot with frequent fights, sometimes involving weapons. Nobody needs to be in that type of place at 1 AM. There's not much good happening at that time.
Something else to consider, is he one the first responders who would be called out if we had an accident in town? If so, would he not be legally obligated to help an injured person rather than leaving? Just a thought...
Mr. X please explain to me how a firefighter is a "brother in arms?"
Does Fort Scott have a paramilitary fire department?
I really don't think they should be carrying bullets into a burning building. I'm pretty sure that's dangerous.
Did they hit a nerve "noshoesnoservice"? I agree they probably don't know EXACTLY what happened but you got to love freedom of speech and the opinions that come with it!!! And telling someone to "shut the hell up!" on a blog is priceless!!!
Thank you "here_4_the_ride".
But "noshoesnoservice" might think it was a 'misteak'.
I am over 50, don't know Crumby and don't care that he got into a fight. That's what happens at bars around acohol. What I find amuzing is the small town mentality to stick your nose into everyones business and trash talk people on the city blog! Would it have mattered if he hadn't been a fireman? Kills me the way people get up on there soap boxes. Jez.........now you all can start trashing me.
I don't live in FS no more, so I won't take an opinion on this (per save our history). But I do have a favor to ask. Can all of you stay living in FS and the surrounding communities. If I know where you are at, I feel safer being that I am on the outside. Its like a concentration camp for idiots and hoodlums.
I don't think its the bars that cause fights, and I don't think its the alcohol that causes fights. I think its the idiots and hoodlums who are drunk at the bars that are causing the fights. I bet there were a bunch of people at that bar who were drinking but yet were able to not get in a fight. Facts or no facts the idiots and hoodlums never just walk away. They have to much honor (also known as stupidy) to defend. OK so maybe I took an opinion.
I agree with you ???????. Like I said in my last post, Nobody needs to be in that type of place at 1 AM. There's not much good happening at that time.
Oh my, no one needs to be in that type of place at 1 am?? Wow...well maybe they will get admittance at 8 am and escorted out by 9:30. Just in time for Dora the Explorer!!!!
Come on, we are talking about a night club here. No, the night club should just roll up at 5 pm much like the downtown area (which gets so much business). Are you for real? So what??? There was a fight at a night club at 1 am. Whoo hoo on a Sat/Sunday night. And over a woman? In these neck of the woods???? Better call Jim Bob!!!
No way!!! Come on, I saw much bigger drama at Crazy legs when they were open. Full on knock out drag outs. Even those weren't impressive.
If you think a bar/night club closes its doors to its patrons at 8 pm so the kiddies can be tucked into bed then you obviously do not attend such places. Or live a bible thumping delusional life.
Gawd, and to think I am interested in opening a bar/grill in this town. Better not or the holy rollers will burn me at the steak before the crack of dawn.
What's next, burning the books in front of the library? Please stop being so small minded. Oooh fights break out in front or near a bar. Wow better call TMZ or Fox news. "Cuz this neber happenz in our neck uv the wuuds!!!!"
Really people. The longer I live in this town the more I realize how depraved it really is. No wonder we have so many juvenile problems. With adults trying to have the mentality of those who lived in the '50's it's no wonder.
Ooohh a firefighter involved....wait better call the FEDS. :P
Sadly and disappointingly signed...Member of Fort Scott community for 20+ years.....
Let me add....
Would the story be less interesting if it were to involve a Peerless or Ward Kraft worker?
Maybe a city commissioner would yield 400+ responses. Again who cares?
Some of you claim that he should have walked away? Let me ask you this - If you were out with your wife, fiance, sister or maybe your mother and a MAN disprestected her (to be specific - grabbed her by her hair and attempted to drag her) would you simply walk away? If the answer to that is yes, then I will thank my lucky stars everyday that you are not my husband or big brother or son.
What's the matter with all of you? People who have to be tough enough to fight crime, fires and the like rather need to be seasoned with some harshness of this 'dark world' instead of ONLY sitting in church pews. Street wisdom to sermon is as water to wine. Little of both is good for the soul and the stomach. BTW Fort Scott is no different than any other city cause you's people are in them all!
No, I wouldn't simply walk away. But here is the best option.
I am assuming you are suggesting someone (the bouncers or this Skaggs guy)dragged his girlfriend by the hair.
We are not talking about imminent danger here. If someone did this I would try to defend my (insert woman here) by getting between the two. If the MAN still wanted to be aggressive and attack ME ( and I would hope he did)... then and only then can I defend "myself". You can only come to someones defense by getting between them and their aggressor unless their life is at stake (held by gunpoint). If he would have done this, then he could called the police and report the assault on his girlfriend. But instead he had to hightail it back to FS.
Now I suppose you will say this is what he did. If that is true, there should be plenty of witnesses to testify to this. Many people would have noticed the commotion (screaming) of a girl getting dragged by her hair by some man. I would also think they would have noticed another man trying to get between them and telling the other man dragging her to "stop". Then they would have seen the MAN let go or her hair and attack the defender. If this is the case he has nothing to worry about but I doubt it went down this way which is why he took of for FS instead of driving straight to the Police Dept.
To me it sounds like someone needed to be reasonable, but there was too much honor to defend. I would be willing to bet the same scenario would have taken place if someone would have dishonored his family name. Stupid.
In the end though... it should be in the courts hands and nothing work related should happen to him. I just hope he learns a lesson on how a society is supposed to work.
greengrass, we always hear that there's nothing for kids to do in this town. What do we need for them? The city's working on the skate park which will cater to a few of them. They didn't want a bowling alley since there wasn't enough support to keep it in business. If there's something that would be good for kids to do & keep them out of trouble, why don't you look into putting something like that in, rather than another bar. Since you'd be geared toward the younger crowd, you'd have less competition (if there is really nothing for them to do around here). You could put a skating rink in the old Wal-Mart or an arcade in the building where the video store used to be on S. National. Just a suggestion....
There is nothing wrong with going to bars and having drinks with friends, I don't even feel there is anything wrong with having a little too much to drink every now and then (as long as you have a DD). However, there are many people in this town who feel they can't have a good time unless they are getting into a fight. When I lived there, and went to bars I heard people say "I feel like getting in a fight." I know that sounds ridiculous, but I am sure that others of you have too. Until those people can learn to control themselves there will always be this problem.
The Branding Iron used to be a fun place to go to, then there started to be more and more fights and fewer people came. The Pump House was a decent place to go, but more fights broke out. Rusty's is the same way. It does not matter what kind of establishment you build, be it night club or ball fields, if people show up to fight, they are going to fight and ruin it for everyone else.
The sad thing is that the mentality for many, and at a very young age, is you can't have a good time without drinking and fighting.
You know, I'm young (24) and I guess maybe I fell into the "nothing else to do but have sex" group. Or atleast that's what it's being called. I have two beautiful children and I wouldn't change that. You talk about there being nothing to do but drink? Fine, I'm not above going out and having a good time but don't blaime Fort Scott for being the reason. You do it because you want to. We had a four wheeler course where a lot of kids could ride. Then someone got hurt, while riding without permission, and sued. It's the stupidity of people that keeps this town from not having anything fun, not the town itself. And you say that there are too many people who feel that they cannot have a good time without fighting? Then you go on to say that "WHEN" you lived here. You don't anymore, you do not know what this town is like. I would not choose a better place to raise my babies. Also, I've bartended here for a very long time. Yes, people fight in bars. It's not just in small towns though. Just be thankful that our pitty little scuffles haven't killed people. I don't think that what Zac did was by any means right, but I also don't think that it has any effect on what kind of a person he is. He's not the first guy to get into a fight at a bar and deffinately not the last. I read a statement about the "bouncers" at Twisters. They are horrible. The job of a bouncer is to remove a problem to keep it from escalating. You walk in there and 90% of the time, they are the problem.
I know very well what Fort Scott is like. I lived there for 31 years and just recently moved. So maybe I know better than you since I have 7 years on you? As far as fights being "petty little scuffles that haven't killed people" Do we want it to come to someone getting killed, because I am sure it will happen some day. It seems that only a few weeks ago we were discussing the stabbing at Rusty's. What about the many other fights that have happened where people have been rushed to the hospital. If someone has to go to the hospital I wouldn't consider it a petty little scuffle. Many times over the years I have seen fights break out and seen people getting their head kicked while they were down, or 3 -vs.- 1, (a Fort Scott trade mark). Marioo3 it is people like you and me, who tolerated these "little scuffles" and think that people doing this are just good ol boys. I now realize this mentality is part of the problem. When people think a person is cool because they "kicked so and so's butt because they looked at me funny." that is a problem. This kind of mentality is passed down from generation to generation and is considered normal. This is what causes fights to be so quick to happen. Granted, it is not only in Fort Scott, but it sure does seem to happen a lot there. And yes that is a problem.
You said it yourself " it is the stupidity of the people in this town for not having anything fun."
I do not know Zac, I do not know exactly what all went on that night. It just sounds like me may not have handled it appropriately.
Many people who have been rushed to the hospital? I must have been working at the wrong bar. I do know of a couple people that went, but I do not consider the people who sent them to be "good ol boys". You know about the older generation in fort scott, unless ofcourse you have been partying with people much younger than you. We're not all a bad generation. I wasn't taught that it's ok to fight just because someone looked at me wrong. I wasn't taught that it's ok to fight at all. I was however, brought up with the comfort that if someone disrespected me, I had the right to stick up for myself. And God help that person if it were a man. I'm the youngest of 8 children, 6 of which were boys. My big brothers wouldn't tolerate any man putting his hands on me. Much like Zac didn't tolerate some wanna be bouncer putting there hands on his fiance. It's the midwest...sorry.
So by what you are posting, violence should beget more violence.
Example,
If a man was to touch you inappropriatly ( a not so violent act). Your brother(s) should go and teach him a lesson by physically hurting him ( a very violent act). This in turn may send your brother(s) to jail. But you are OK with that as this man touched your hiney.
In truth your not ok with that. You would think nothing should happen to your brother(s) and the guy should go to jail. But in this example your brother(s) would be worse off.
I understand what you are saying, but what I am saying is that it is this type of mentality that is causing problems in YOUR area. You cannot make physical contact with someone unless you are defending yourself.
I understand he "thinks" he was just coming to the defense of his fiance, but in reality he was attacking this person instead of just preventing further "attacks" on his fiance. I hope their is leinency and an investigation on why someone was dragging her by her hair, but I am afraid his incident will outweight that now.
No that's not what I am saying. I have gotten my "hiney" touched by men, I don't expect my brothers to beat him up. However, I was drug around by a man, by the hair of my head and it took everything I had to keep my brothers from physically hurting him. But I guess you're right, maybe we should all just let a man treat a woman however he see's fit.
Stop beating me.
See even Dead_Horse realizes there is too much violence in FS.
Holy crap...what we originally started talking about didn't even happen in Fort Scott. Get off the damn town. And dead_horse is probably a woman beater.
So it looks like the last thing we need is another bar...another trouble spot in Ft Scott. Everyone is pretty much in agreement that fights are going to happen in bars and people are going to get hurt (people + alcohol). It's a fact of life. Do we let it continue until someone is severely injured or killed? My point to greengrass is if he/she is going to open a business, why not do something that will give the kids in this town something to do. There's an opportunity to address something that has been a complaint around here for many years. As far as a 4-wheeler track or paint ball, where do you have to go to find those? Pittsburg doesn't have them. If you look what do the neighboring towns, what do they have that we don't have here for kids to do? If we had something to cater to the younger folks, you may end up drawing people from these other towns. It could be a successful venture.
Fort Scott and Pitt bars ain't so bad. I've been in bars in other counties and states where the bartenders wore sidearms and had shotguns under the bar. I've also seen guns pulled in bars,shots fired, knives used and no cops or sheriffs ever arrived.
When the bartenders wear sidearms and the bouncers use metal detectors at the door, and the band is protected by chicken wire or cages....those are the rough bars.....rather I should say the parking lots of those bars are the rough places..
You could theoretically close all bars in the area and have a situation with much more potential for danger as people would just congregate at parties out in the country where literally ANYTHING CAN AND HAS HAPPENED. NO BOUNCERS, NO AGE CHECKS, NO REAL ADDRESS, WHO'S GONNA CALL THE LAW?
Prohibition is over, people have been fighting over women and money forever, and it will continue. Bars at least have a measure of security that "no rules no law parties" will ever have.
Wow! That is something I would brag about. Do you also find a certain amount of respect for all the pits and the pittbosses in prison. I have happened on some rough places too... something in me said "get the hell out of here" not lets stick around and see if there is a show.
Prohibition is over, lets work on self control though (i.e. responsibility).
I think you just took a perceived opportunity to make fun of my post, and in the course of that you entirely missed my point. Then again, perhaps you didn't understand my point and therefore chose to mock me. That's not nice you know.
Now you did understand that prohibition is over, but I'm a little dismayed that you didn't seem to understand my point that a bar, regulated by the liquor commission and the local police provides a measure of safety that is often unavailable if folks have NOWHERE to go and create their own parties, but then again after reading some of your posts,I would have to come to the conclusion that you are here condemning everyone else, but justifying your actions when you see fit. i.e. a hypocrite.
?????? you said this in your response to me:
"Lets work on self control though (i.e. responsibility)"
You also said this on an earlier post:
"There is nothing wrong with going to bars and having drinks with friends, I don't even feel there is anything wrong with having a little too much to drink every now and then (as long as you have a DD)."
Well sex wasn't the only option for me until I moved back to Fort Scott. To be quite honest. I lived in Lawrence (until I was 17 - for 3 years). Didn't get pregnant there. Hmm... come to Ft. Scott-oh a whole lot of fun things to do for a teen. Not!! Anyway, my personal decisions are not the problem here. But they do face a lot of the problems of teens currently here in Fort Scott. You tell me, what can a 16 year old do, on a Friday night in Good ol' Fort Scott that will keep them occupied?
At 16 they can't drive. They can't get into movies that are rated R. There are no teen "bars/clubs" here. So tell me. In a populated town of 13,000 or so what can the average teen do here?
Answer:
Besides Church related activites, illegal acts...the answer is nothing. There is not anything our teens can do. Sad, when the elderly have more options. Think about that.
Then the next time we all shake our head because our teens are arrested, killed, etc. for insane reasons, think to yourself for two seconds...what else could they be doing?
When I lived in Lawrence,KS. There were a slew of things to do. Here we are barren.....
greengrass, I'm not sure where you live now, but you can drive at 16.
You could have made the same point without pointing how you had been to all these "rough bars". I think you did that because you think it makes you seem tougher. This is why I mocked you. Maybe, I shouldn't have done that, but I felt like you were trying to make "rougher" seem "cooler".
I do not think a liquor commission or the local police can provide me safety. The police can only arrive too late (after the altercation has taken place). I rely on my instincts.
I don't think a liquor commission should have any input on this as all they can do is take away a license to sell. This isn't the owners fault.
I read your original post to mean the bar can be rough. As long as there is some type of authority (Bar tenders packing, bouncers, and Police who will show up). The authority will restore order. This shouldn't need to happen. This is why I have been preaching self control and responsibility and would like to see more peer pressure on the misfits to act appropriatly.
If I wanted to do that, I could have reported on some bars that are rougher than the ones I mentioned. a few that I mistakenly happened into and was glad to get out alive and in a hurry without drawing to much attention to myself.
My point is and was the bars around here aren't so bad, could be worse, and are still offer a safer place than some parties that occur out in the middle of nowhere.
I people in general would excercise more self control and responsibility as you wished, we wouldn't even need the police at all, but that is not reality is it?