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Read comments (109)According to the Bourbon County Sheriff's Office, on Saturday evening, an altercation of which the specifics are currently unknown, took place at the residence of Frank Hereford, 85, Fort Scott.
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According to Becky Canady, Hereford's daughter, on Saturday her father conducted an auction at his house. After the auction was over, Hereford's friend Lonnie Moore and Hereford sat outside drinking beer and visiting.
Canady said she left her father with Moore while she drove into Fort Scott. Canady said her son later called on her cell phone and said Hereford was lying in the drive-way.
"My son called me and said, 'I found Grandpa in the drive way. He's got blood all over him,'" Canady said.
After returning to her home, Canady said she was shocked by how badly Hereford had been beaten. She said his face was beaten so badly that he was unrecognizable. Canady's boyfriend held Hereford's head in his lap while Canady drove to the hospital.
"There was so much blood," Canady said. "We could hear him gurgling. It would scare anyone who looked at him. He was so mutilated."
Canady later found out just how extensive her father's injuries were. Doctors explained to her that every bone from Hereford's nose to his left ear was fractured. Even his dentures which were inside his mouth were broken. Hereford's injuries were so severe that a Chaplain was called into his room to say a prayer before Mercy Hospital placed him in the life flight, according to Canady.
"I am shocked he is still alive," Canady said.
Although seeing her father's condition was shocking, Canady said his condition is not the only reason she is upset.
Since Hereford was with Moore when Canady left the house, she said she wanted to know if Moore knew what had happened. Moore's son, who was with Canady's son during the incident, called his house looking for his father. He was informed by his step-mother that Bourbon County Sheriff's Deputy Cindy Gillispie and her husband had driven Moore home, according to Canady.
When asked about the incident, Gillispie said she had received a call about cows running loose in the county. While investigating the cows, Gillispie discovered a red truck sitting along the side of the road. Upon further examination, Gillispie said she discovered Moore lying in the vehicle. He was bloody, Gillispie said.
"He told me he got beat up at Frank Hereford's house," said Gillispie.
Gillispie said she thought Moore had been drinking and driving when she first discovered him. However, she could not find his car keys. After searching through the vehicle, Moore's keys were found in the back of the truck indicating Moore had not been using them to drive the vehicle. Since there was no DUI involved, Gillispie said she asked her husband to drive Moore home in Moore's truck.
Canady reported that later the same day, Gillispie came to the hospital to check on Hereford. When Canady inquired about Moore, Gillispie denied ever seeing him, Canady said. According to Canady, the Deputy denied even knowing where Moore lived. Canady added Gillispie did nothing to investigate the incident. It was not until she contacted a local attorney, that any investigation into her father's beating began, Canady said.
"There was blood in the driveway and she (Gillispie) did nothing except lie to us."
According to Gillispie, when asked by Moore's son at the hospital if she had driven his father home, she denied driving Moore to his house. However, Gillispie said in a phone interview that she did follow the red truck to Moore's house because she needed to pick her husband up. Gillispie said no one at the hospital asked her if she knew where Moore lived.
After leaving the hospital, Gillispie said she began her investigation returning to Moore's house and collecting the bloody clothing he had been wearing. Later, she received a telephone call from County Attorney Terri Johnson advising her to secure the crime scene at Hereford's house.
"Terri said the scene needed to be covered," Gillispie said. "I told her I couldn't do it because I was the only one on duty. She (Terri) said call for Ron (Undersheriff Ron Gray). So, I did."
Gillispie said she did go to Hereford's house and waited until Gray arrived to secure the scene.
According to the Bourbon County Sheriff's Office, when Gray became aware of the situation, he decided to contact the Kansas Bureau of Investigations and ask for their assistance due to the extent of Hereford's injuries and several other variables in the case.
Gillispie said she is helping with the on-going investigation.
"I met with KBI and went on with the investigation," Gillispie said. "It is my case. We did it under my case number. It is still under investigation. At this point, we have two victims. Lonnie Moore indicated he had been at Hereford's farm when he got beat up."
Currently, the case is under investigation by the Bourbon County Sheriff's Office, the KBI and the Fort Scott Police Department. However, Bourbon County Sheriff Harold Coleman said he could not confirm nor deny an internal investigation into the way deputies handled the incident.
I am reluctant to respond to this, but I couldn't resist. First of all, I am in hopes of Frank's recovery, I hope all is well. I have moved from the area, and I can honestly say, I am so glad I did. I am the x-spouse of a former official of the Bourbon County Sheriff's Dept., and I can honestly tell you that anytime something big happens in the county, the Deputy, Undersheriff, or Sheriff come under the microscope, and the effects of this also hurts their families immeasureably. A lot of what you hear whether through the grapevine, or from the people involved can be twisted and turned. Therefore, never take one person's word for anything. I am confident that only the Lord knows what actually happened, and those of you who think you know so much about everything need to let those in charge do their jobs, and let God be the judge.
I have known Frank all of my life and I have known Cindy all of her life, for me to read all the hate that is written in these posts is a shame. First, not one of you, nor I, know the facts in this case. Much of what is being written is based on hearsay. There is a lot of disrespect in many of the posts that are senseless. I, too, know Ron Gray and have a lot or respect for him. He is a very nice gentleman. Will I vote for him? Will I vote for Cindy? That is no ones business but my own. That is why when you vote you do it behind a curtain. If you want to campaign, go door to door like the politicians. There is a lot of disrespect to our elected officials on a daily basis. Very seldom do you ever hear about what a good job a police officer or deputy has done, all you ever hear are what they didn't do right. Show some respect to all concerned. You hear in conversations all the time how the kids no longer have respect for people, is this a learned trait?
Thank you Cindy and Ron for all you have done for this county. I know you have done more good than you are given credit for.
I love you Frank and wish you a speedy recovery.
Good points fscc.
There are however some rather extenuating circumstances here that must be noted as well, mainly that certain people involved in this matter are running for a public office that requires a very high degree of professionalism and ethics.
When a person runs for public office it is the citizens right and some would say duty to openly discuss the pro's and con's of giving that person the office they wish to be voted into.
I am trying to figure out how or where a mandated line can be drawn between what can be construed as gossip,opinion and fact sharing.
I think that dialogue is overall very good, and each individual must weigh the merits of the information for themselves.
I noticed you didn't say anything about the huge number of letter of compassion and concern for Mr Hereford and his family. Aren't you equally impressed by this outpouring of support for a citizen of our community? I am.
Sincerely,
like2b_onree aka dan doherty
I would just like to say as a younger member of this community, its so sad to see and hear people gossip as if we're all still in high school. Many people just like to jump on the bandwagon, only because they really have nothing to say themselves. Until a complete ivestigaiton is done, we won't know the whole truth. It amazes me how much we all like to talk trash about each other, no one I know actually likes being talked about and rumors hurt whether we say so or not. Trying to stop a rumor is like trying to stop a train with mind power...impossible. Put yourselves in other people's shoes. Imagine half the town was talking down about you to others. You wouldn't like it either. I'm not trying to take sides, because I don't like to make assumptions, but this town would be a whole lot better off if we all stopped to think about how what we say in everyday conversations effects others around us.
4sure,
They are comments, not commits. It makes it difficult to figure out what the heck you are talking about when you use completely wrong words.
First off, this article is extremely bias. It completely skews the whole story. Instead of relying on the facts, there is tons of hearsay. And pretty much hearsay from just one side of the story.
Wait for the facts to come out from the KBI. I wouldn't trust the locals too much on a case like this.
I have been keeping my comments to myself but I had to say something. This is a shame and it is a good thing this young lady called the county attorney and better yet that the KBI is involved. As for Cindy she should know better than to just drive a bloody man home or have anyone drive him home. There is no excuse and as for the person who wrote the story good work. I feel so very sorry for the family as this should have never happened . My prayers are with the family. I hope who ever did this go to jail for a long long time. I doubt very much that anyone on the police force would have just drove a bloody man home as a matter of fact I will say it would never have happened without being questions and probably jail time, I really am afraid for Ft Scott if Cindy is the Sheriff. Of course if you want everything swept under the rug she will be GREAT!!!!
I have read all the post. And read them again. It is so very clear with everyone's concerns about our local law enforcement that it is time for a big change in a big way. Now,I also can see that it is the people of Ft.Scott,Bourbon Co. that need to make this change. If you dont vote for it or dont vote at all then dont complain!!! It is the people's choice. Make it count!
First of all, I would like to offer my well wishes to Mr. Hereford. It's my understanding from reading a subsequent article that he has been taken off the ventilator and his prognosis is good. I would like to say, however, that in case of a medical emergency, 9-1-1 should always be called since it would have dispatched trained personnel to transport the patient. Mr. Hereford's daughter, being a civilian, may not have known better. Deputy Sheriff Gillispie when she encountered Mr. Moore, however, should have. Had he suffered spine or internal injuries, the liability issue would be huge. I hope the Sheriff's Department is investigating her actions in this case.
hats off to you Nurse 2: Your right this should be about good ole boy stories of mr herford: Here's one for you My family and I lived in Ft Scott a few yrs ago.......I met Mr herford one day while taking a walk.....as I got to know him I realized what a great guy he is.....that yr I planted a garden......I asked frank what could I put in the garden for him......he answered parsnips......oh ok now being the city slicker I was I had no clue as to what a parsnip looked like but if frank wanted it frank was going to get it ......after severly weeks of tending my two rows of parsnips .......weeding and watering daily came the big momement......Mr herford showed up at my house that day and in the most loving caring fashion he needed to inform me how much he appreciated all the effort...but what I had there was two beautiful rows of weeds...my point to this story is there should be more frank herfords in this world cause if there was the world would be a MUCH Better place....Get better quick frank
my_2_cents, Braaavooo! your a genius for figuring this one out. Maybe you should be the one handling the investigation of this case. One thing to say Covey 08.
I thought at 63 you would be a little wiser to the facts. SAD!
I am appalled that The Tribune for allowing the "commit on this story" to turn into a bias, bashing area full of smut! Who edits these or is there any editing? It appears to me that the Tribune needs to change their name to The Inquirer. Who in the world believes the garbage in that paper.
There are nasty commits about Deputy Gillispie that has nothing to do with the story regarding the conflict between Moore and Hereford. There IS an on going investigation here and she is most likely not going to commit until everyone involved has be questioned. Obviously, both men were drinking which altered their behavior. I was unfortunate that both substained injuries. Deputy Gillispie works hard for this community and earns her pay. Unless you few writing the smut and bias opinions were there,,,,you don't know the facts. I believe Deputy Gillispie is fair and honest. I'm 63 yrs old and have seen and heard a lot in this town. An opinion is just that,,,an opinion. Stick to facts and stop pointing your finger because there are 3 pointing back at you
A few weeks ago I was again shocked by the commits about the high school children questioned about a party involving alcohol. Commits went from the facts of the story, or lack there of, to pregnancy to nothing but dirt degrading those children. We have a lot of good children and they all deserve more respect from this community. They made bad choices at the time and need guided to get back on track.
So, instead of hiding behind your computer with your anonymous names, Get out and support the community, get involved physically to make this community a better place to live. In doing just a small part, you will ease the burden on the law enforcement agencies. the schools and the churches. They can't do it alone.
Even God doesn't judge you until your dead and God knows all the facts. Think about that for a while.
Folks,dont all of you rush out to the forum next week thinking it is going to be a "bashing party" or who did it or why forum. It will be no different than any other. 3 questions will be asked of all candidates with time allowed to answer. The 3 questions will be screened before they are asked. There will be no " Personal" issues brought up. It is not allowed. If you have ever been to a forum you would know this. It seems to me that everyone is trying to blame everyone else for Cindy Gillispie's mistakes. Even putting blame on the paper. The little gal who did the story is a very conscious writer. I do not know her very well,but have heard that she always makes sure that she writes and quotes everyone the way she heard it from whoever she is interviewing because she does not want to print the wrong thing. People are just looking for blame and they are blaming everyone but the person that needs to be blamed!! As it has been said ssveral times on these post,it is about time everyone see's what is going on. It has been said "it is time for change" in our local law enforcement. Yes,it is time for CHANGE in a BIG way!
I was shocked then sadden , before I became very upset even to the point of angry, upon finding out that in a small town in Kansas ,my Home Town. was the very place where my old and very dear friend was beaten at his very own residence. I have read and re-read this article .In total disbelife . Not how this could happen but the fact that in an area where i grew up with very many fond memories, that a man that made want to some day return . Could be hanging on for his very life. I could not belive we don,t already have a suspect in custody. Who-ever did this can rest assured that I plan on being at his trial, trying very hard to control myself.This familey of the Herfords are and always have been very dear friends to me and my familey. I wanted so bad to go find who did this and extract revenge on them. After calming down and I might add not much I will be joining Beckey in her effort to make sure that this does not get forgotten. My Home Town I grew up in would not allow this to go away. To Many good people live there. How could in this day and age was so many mistakes be allowed to continue. People need removed from safety sensitive positions and now !!!!Answer needed now and people need a fast and swift action. Now i understand why towns are sued and taxes go up and frustrations are pushed to the limits. I Urge you to act now not later. People need suspended before they taint any more evidence. Or get in the way of swift and strong action,s . I pray for Frank and his familey, and also for the good People of Fort Scott. My old Home Town would have more answers than questions by now. People would never allow an 85 year old man beaten at home to be allowed another day of suffering with-out some answers.My Home Town would demand actions NOW
I'm with jml_ell about the Ethics of this Paper. It has always been a joke sense I can remember.
Do you people in Ft. Scott actually believe what you read in the papers? The newspaper is there to make money, they don't have to tell the truth. We would hope they would have ethics, but this paper doesn't. I have noticed that nobody in FS goes to trial, that is because the newspaper already told all the potential jurors the defendant was guilty. Don't trust the paper. Wait for the investigation, and only believc half of that.
To bpoorboy, This is not working. We can all see through this masquerade you are trying to represent here. Nice try...
i do shave but im not an ape and cindi told me that leads to less dna evidence to collect
Hello bpoorboy, I guess from your post that you are little more than a shaved ape that has internet access.
to wtf2008. i will have you no that i no red page and he is as smart as cindi. so why are you picking on these people for. it is people like these two that make bourbon county what it is. your lucky i dont know who you really are cuz i would get you for talking about my friends like that. then earl would drive me home.
Moore's son, who was with Canady's son during the incident....
WHERE WAS THIS?
According to Gillispie, when asked by Moore's son at the hospital if she had driven his father home, she denied driving Moore to his house. However, Gillispie said in a phone interview that she did follow the red truck to Moore's house because she needed to pick her husband up. Gillispie said no one at the hospital asked her if she knew where Moore lived.
SOUNDS LIKE SHE ALREADY HAD 1 OR 2 SUSPECTS!
I sure Hope I am wrong!!!!
At this point, we have two victims. Lonnie Moore indicated he had been at Hereford's farm when he got beat up."
BY HERFORD "NOT"
By Whom???
well you i will have you no i am not on any meds. and if i am i would still be helping to get cindy in office. why do you not ask the people who have ben in the jail cuz there is lots and im sure they are all agreeing with me that cindi needs to be sheriff. she treats us fair.
Are all of you people that are defending this hapless cretin Gillispie off your meds or something? How could anyone think she made the right decision in this matter, even Red Page would have went and got help if he found a bloody person passed out in a truck. She is a nincompoop plain and simple and has no business being in this position. Sure she is a nice person but so was Joan Crawford and we all know how that turned out.
i am boting for cindi gilespie cuz she is good, and when you have a police man like this i can do what i want. Bote for cindy
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Um simple observation like2b_onreee, One of those posts was from me one was from duckyq :)
below are two posts by dude2002 that I had to comment on.
-- Posted by like2b_onree on Wed, Oct 22, 2008, at 9:43 PM
-- Posted by duckyq on Wed, Oct 22, 2008, at 12:08 PM
-- Posted by dude2002 on Wed, Oct 22, 2008, at 9:55 PM
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My mistake, however I think it would have been to your advantage to not point out that it was you who stated,"there is no lying until it is written in a report".....
That is simply justification that you can lie and manipulate up to a point of time and that's BS!!!!!!!
I don't fault Gillespie for going on vacation. If it wasn't this case, there'd be others that are put on hold while she's gone. Everyone needs time away from work. If she already had days off scheduled, she should be allowed to take them. KBI and Ron Gray are also involved so it's not like things won't get attention, if needed.
Wonder if this will be a 'hot topic' at the candidates forum next week? It might be interesting to attend this one.
Cindy commented that, "I have met with the KBI and went on with my investigation" and "it is my case. We did it under my case number. It is still under investigation". Then why pray tell, when the victim and good family of the victim are still looking for answers, did Cindy go on vacation?
To FS MOM
you say that Cindy Doesn't answer calls well neither do the rest answer all their calls when they are on duty I know of an incident that happened on a domestic call just a few weeks ago and Deputy Feagins was called and he never responded and when the person called to have Feagins called dispatched said he was unavailible so don't be so quick to say Cindy doesn't answer her calls as the rest don't answer all of their calls either. We do need a change but the citizens of the county won't allow an outsider to come in to run the county as then maybe all the Good Ol boy stuff would end and all the past cases that got covered up, like officers that are off duty going to someones house and attacking an individual and our so called law enforcement won't do anything as that incident happened a few years back and it was swept under the carpet, this officer went to this persons house and pushed in the door and violently attacked an individual half thier size and that individual wasn't allowed his day in court so as for Changes we need a fresh face for Sheriff and someone who isn't from this area or previously been in or currently in the department.We need someone from outside the county to come in an get the house cleaned up. So as I think none of the candidates get my vote. But like I said previously the only person that knows what happened is the man in the Hospital and until he talks then everyone needs to sit back and wait. As if their is an on going investigation then an officer can't reveal and pertinent information for that case as it could compromise the situation and even when confronted for information on what was done they can't give straight up front answers. So I believe the article is a bunch of hearsay and until the official report is in. No one needs to be blaming anyone. Because everyone has SKELETONS IN THEIR CLOSEST that even includes law enforcement as no one is perfect if so then god would not have put us here. The reason I left was because of the way the system was ran "you cover my back I cover yours " To me law enforcement is a place of Honesty and Truth no covering up to keep someone out of trouble I believe "if you do the crime you do the time" no making deals.
Um simple observation like2b_onreee, One of those posts was from me one was from duckyq :)
below are two posts by dude2002 that I had to comment on.
-- Posted by like2b_onree on Wed, Oct 22, 2008, at 9:43 PM
-- Posted by duckyq on Wed, Oct 22, 2008, at 12:08 PM
You people are so oblivious to the corruption in you law enforcement. Honestly in my opinion Gillispie should be relieved of her duties as a law enforcement officer because her so called "12 years experience" was no where to be found the day Frank and Frank alone was beaten at his home. I am shocked anyone would want someone who obviously takes short cuts and lies, to uphold justice in their county. their is obviously more to the story behind what happened and the truth will be known sooner than later. I dont know Gillispie or Frank or Moore but I know from reading the reports on what happened Gillispie obviously had complete disregard for evidence by allowing her husband to drive Moore to his home and i believe the popular unanswered question is why was her husband with her on duty in the first place? She was apparently on another call but i think a man lying bleeding in his drive way fighting for his life trumps some cattle running loose. Cattle are replaceable a mans life is NOT. My prayers are with Frank and Becky and Family. The truth WILL be known!
below are two posts by dude2002 that I had to comment on.
-- Posted by duckyq on Wed, Oct 22, 2008, at 12:08 PM
I know how the department runs as I once was part of the county..
And as for moving her father it sounds like she should be at blame for BLOTCHING UP EVIDENCE ON HER FATHER AND THE AREA WHERE HE WAS FOUND
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There is no lying until something is written in an official report and then proved that there was false information in that report.
-- Posted by dude2002 on Wed, Oct 22, 2008, at 1:37 PM *****************
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Dude2002,
you sound like a someone who is or was in law enforcement. Unfortunately you sound like someone who makes good cops look bad.
If you were once in law enforcement I'm glad you're gone. It is easy to see by your posts you were part of the problem, as you score 0 for compassion and -0 for credibility.
To bad the focus is not on franks condition, but rather on write-in and who to vote for? Jase said it right. frank would give you the shirt of his back.If you want to blog with some sort of concern, consider that someone would beat an 85yr old man till facial bones and dentures were broke! what if this where your father or grandfather. Don't any of you have some "good ol boy" tale to blog about frank, or prays to blog? To those who feel the need to defend Cindy..... let her defend her self, if in fact there where some poor decisions made, it will just make it harder when they come out. You know......the sheriffs dept has always been the communities good guys. If you want to talk smack about law enforcement start with the ones hanging out at the local gas stations, or Aunt Toades. I would bet non of the people running for sheriff want to advertise, or boost votes at the expense of frank and his families tragic event.
To:Frank, Becky, Corey and family, Our prayers are with you.
Dear Poor Ellen,Good advise!! I will write in Hillary Clinton for president.Not much else to pick from!!!
I do not know Mr. Hereford nor Becky. I do know that I have heard lots of good kind words about Frank. I've heard Becky is pretty head strong and that she will not let this rest! Good for her!!It should not rest. I did notice that MS.Kitty and duckq are quick to point the finger at everyone but Cindy. MS.Kitty also says that some of the post are probably from the employees at the jail. Well Ms.Kitty who are you??Family,good friends or Linda P. Cindys good friends. Everyone has a right to voice concern regardless of where they work or who they are. Even you! Duckyq, if you found your family laying in the driveway are you going to check them or wait until someone comes along to help!!You might wait awhile!!Becky did the right thing as a daughter for her dad! This has been along time in the making. Thank the lord it came out now. Open your eyes people!!!We need change in Bourbon County!!!
For all those who have nothing better to do than prove your ignorance on this post; call the sheriff's office or the DA's office and complain. Otherwise your a coward for hiding behind a keyboard. I think the case was poorly handled and the truth will never be reviled and that is a damn shame. The true tragedy is a man I have known all my life is severely hurt. Frank would have and has taken his shirt off his back for anyone, and if you have never known him I feel sorry for you. My hope is that I am wrong and the person involved will come forward, for I feel this is the only way this crime will be solved.
My love to Frank, Becky, Shawn and their families.
Tim Guilfoyle
I think this is all a bunch of ignorant postings. I have seen these kind of things before. I think everyone will be surprised when all the facts come out. To Becky, Thank you for letting us know that your father is doing alright. My prayers are to all that are physicaly and emotionaly hurt.
The following quotes come directly from the Tribune interview with Cindy Gillispie last week. She stated:
1. "After 12 years in law enforcement," Gillispie said, "I know what has to be done. I know what needs to be changed. I know where we lack that needs to be filled. I know it will be my job to do that."
"Her job to do that"??? She had an opportunity to do her job, by following up at a crime scene (whether she was tired or not). But she not only chose not to do so, but also chose to lie about her involvement thusfar. It appears that she had to be forced into doing her job…
2. "We need to spend more time patrolling if we are going to discover crime as it is happening."
She literally discovered crime "as it was happening". She drove up an automobile on the side of the rode and did not question the driver how they got there, nor take him for medical treatment. As others have posted "He can refuse medical treatment". True. However, if his medical treatment is part of an investigation that his injuries are part of evidence and is is no longer his choice to be examined by a doctor as to what type of wounds he has, if they are defense wounds, etc… Her choice (let me stress that again -- CHOICE) was to take this man home knowing a crime had been commited (probably 2 -- Drunk Driving and Battery)
"I know that I'll do a good job as sheriff," she said. "I know we're ready for change, and I am ready to make some of those changes."
I think it is obvious where the first change needs to be made. She sure sounds good on paper, but her "paper" credentials don't hold water.
It is definitely time for an "extreme makeover". Let's get some fresh blood in our offices and write in Jim Covey !!!
Lets hear it for Jim Covey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As long as we are promoting writeins here, let's write in Hillary Clinton for president.
There is a third option for Sherrif...
Write in: Jim Covey. Anyone who knows he and his wife realize that he is ezxactly what we need.
Odds are if Cindy wins she will be thrown out of office once this investigation ends
One thing I have to say from reading all of this is you're saying she lied by listening to the comments from the daughter of the man beaten up. My thinking is if your Law Enforcement Officer You may sometimes withhold information from a party involved so it does not hinder an investigation. So you can form clear stories from the Parties involved. You all are talking about firing someone for what they said to someone involved in an investigation so as to possibly get truthful details. There is no lying until something is written in an official report and then proved that there was false information in that report.
Sorry to have ruffled your feathers Tick'd off. However, just for the record, you are not the only person that has known Cindy for 20 plus years. We obviously just have different opinions. I do believe we are entitled to that.
Regardless of whether it's Coleman, Gillespie, Reed, Gray, this is not what it's about. Nor is this about who will be the next Sheriff! Most of you have lived in Bourbon County the majority of your life and have chosen to live with the way things are. That was clearly your choice. I, too, was once married to a Sheriff's Deputy whom worked for Bourbon County. I, too, am well aware of many things that were covered up in the past as to NOT ruffle anyone's feathers. No one wants to piss off The Good Ole boys! This is the way it's always been.
I think the real kicker that pissed everyone off in some of these blogs is that once Becky went to the Tribune, it couldn't be covered up. No one wants to hear about stories like this because ultimately, the person who screwed up is named. I, for one, an very proud of Becky for having the courage to tell the truth. Which is more than I can say for many others.
$20.00 bucks says that there's still no arrests and no suspects.....
This article is a hack job. I wouldn't put too much trust into it. Most of the article is comprised of the opinion of a woman who's father's life is in serious danger. This article is poorly written and seems more like gossip than real news.
Wow, duckyq... you are quick to take up for Cindy, however, you are even quicker to throw other people under the bus. You have pretty much blamed everybody on the Sheriff's Department and the victims family, however, Cindy was just a victim of circumstance? Are you kidding me? You are a hypocrite! In one breath you talk about how the Sheriff Deputies are worthless (all but Cindy of course), and how they refuse to answer calls of domestics in the county and how people can't get speedy assistance. However, you judge Becky for taking her father to the hospital herself and not calling an ambulance! I would do the same thing that Becky did... gee, should I wait 15-20 minutes for an ambulance while the victim bleeds out and dies or should I not care about the crime scene(because that it the law enforcement officers job)and try to save the dying victim!
One more thing. I am so tired of hearing Ms. Gillispie's supporters say "wait for the whole story". I don't need to know all of the details. It was a terrible unfortunate event, however, she only dug herself a deeper hole by lying to cover her butt! Do cops lie? Absolutey, they are human! However, if the lie is only to cover the officers rear when they are put to the fire, than it is unethical and should be handled appropriately! You don't have to like your locsal law enforcement officers (they don't have to be nice), but you have to be able to respect and trust them, and just by Ms. Gillispie's own words in this article, I can do neither of those!
Ducky - your name fits, you are a quack if you are trying to blame the victim and the family for the mistakes made by Cindy. Based on Cindy's actions, she probably would not have done anything had she been called to the Hereford home, if she even showed up, because if you will listen to the scanner, you will find that she often does not respond to calls that she is sent on.
It sounds like to me lets bash Cindy for what EVERY Deputy does and EVEN THE SHERIFF Lets take care of the GOOD OLE BOYS THAT TAKE CARE OF THEM AS FOR SNITCHES AND WHATEVER ELSE. I know how the department runs as I once was part of the county and there has always been the good ole boy system and everyone of the deputies have ride alongs. You need to walk in one of there shoes one day to know what they have to put up with and they have to answer to the sheriff. We don't live in some BIG City we live in little Fort Scott kansas and here everybody tries to put the other person down for doing what their coworkers do and for what they are told to do things get blown way out of proportion and if you want to condemn Cindy for doing wrong then you need to look at the other deputies that use there position as law enforcement because I could tell you alot. So if you are condemning Cindy then you need to be CONDEMNING all of them becaause they all have SKELETONS in their closest that everyone know something and no one speaks up about it. about and as for where was her back up someone mentioned Bob Reed where was he at? why wasn't he called out? I think he should answer to this also. what about other incidences that you call the Sheriff deputy to come to your house for a domestic at night and the dispatch says the deputy isn't taking calls or the deputy doesn't show up or even call you or you call in speeders in the county that are jeopardising the safety of children in the area and they say they can't do anything even when you give them a tag number and vehicle description. So everyone is only listening to poor Canady and not looking at all the actual facts only her hearsay to the situation
She is upset and human nature allows us to want to BLAME ANY AND LASH OUT AT WHOEVER IS FIRST.
I have known Cindy and her husband and I know that neither one would intentionally blotch up evidence now not to say the same for the others as they Play THe Good Ole Boy System very well
I am sorry for Canady's situation but Lashing out at one Specific Deputy isn't the way to do it. Because she needs to blame everyone even her son and moore's son since they sound like they must have been around close according to what she said.
And as for moving her father it sounds like she should be at blame for BLOTCHING UP EVIDENCE ON HER FATHER AND THE AREA WHERE HE WAS FOUND SO SHE HAS NOTHING TO SAY ABOUT WHO BLOTCHED UP EVIDENCE OR WHO DID THE RIGHT THING as she should have called 911 and then a deputy and ambulance would have been dispatched and the proper channels would have been handled because who to say maybe her son and moores son didn't do it and maybe she is covering for them as she says that they called her and that he was found in the driveway and that he just had an auction at his house maybe those two boys wanted the money from the auction and he wouldn't give it to them . (as a few years back a boy killed his grandmother for money because she wouldn't give it to him around here) It sounds like the only person that really knows what happened is the man is laying in the Hospital and until investigators can question him then no need throwing Daggers at One deputy.
This is Becky Canaday. Thank you to Rayma for your expertise in writing the article. Dad has made it through surgery yesterday. They are working to wean him off the vent. His heart and lungs are strong. Liver too! Hopefully he wakes up and can resume his life. Keep up the Prayers they are working!
Whether Cindy is running for Sheriff or not, she made conscious decisions that were witnessed first hand by 4 people. My opinion, based on the facts, is that she is not a person with the qualities of integrity, good decision making skills, compassion, and a sense of urgency. I am new back to Fort Scott and I don't know Cindy personally. In this situation with my Dad - I feel that she handled the collection of the evidence inappropriately. She didn't approach us with honesty and she continues to back peddle. She didn't give me any confidence that she would find out what happened. And she didn't. I called Dan Meara to help get some action.
I feel bad for Lonnie. Alcohol can turn you into someone who you are not at heart. Accidents happen. But we all have to be responsible for our actions and choices. Character is not who you are when things are going good - Character is who you are when things are going bad and if you make a mistake be big enough to own up to it.
Thank you to my friends and neighbors for always being there when needed. :) Love you all !
more will be revealed.
I see in a lot of the posts that people keep talking about needing the facts. Well here is some for you.
I will not post the events but i will give you facts. My family was harmed living in bourbon county several years ago. I was sickened by the way our great sherrifs office handled what happened to me, my husband and children. We are law biding citizens . Our case was handled so poorly. Things the deputys did not investigate and then lost paperwork inmortant to the case. Our sherrif knew about the deputys involved and how they were not doing the case right. After a year we went to the prosecuting attorney to ask why something had not been started to prosecute. Boy were we surprised when we found out they didn't even know about it! The prosecuting attorney had to call the sheriff and demand the reports. This was after complaining for over a year to the sherrifs office about getting justice.
I think it is a good thing Becky went to the prosecuting attorney right away, and had we known better we would have too!
by the way the ones who did the crimes against us were convicted of it, so what I say is proven true!
ok. i dont know anyone involved in this story. i just know this. alot of u are saying that gillispe couldnt do anything because she was already on a call? ok. thats very well indeed or whatever. but do you not think that a bleeding,beaten man should trump some cattle out? i mean im certainly not a law enforcement officer or whatever. but i would sure think that would take precidence over some stupid cattle that were out of there fence. i am appaled that someone could do such a hanis crime to a 85 yr old man. what kind of monster would do this? my thoughts and prayers are with this family even if i dont know them.
If Deputy Gillispie was an officer on the Fort Scott Police Department, I guarantee you that she would have been released from duties immediately and her law enforcement certification would be in danger of being stripped from her for unethical behavior... however, since she is on the Sheriff's Department she is still employed and very well might become our next Sheriff!
The good-ol boy system has been at work in this county since I was a child, and it obviously will never change! I hadn't planned on voting for Cindy anyway, because I know her law enforcement intelligence and I know that appointing her as Sheriff would be just like re-appointing Sheriff Coleman.
HOwever, my point is this.... everybody that has lived in this town for any amount of time if very aware of the fact that the Sheriff's Dept. doesn't do anything! They don't want to do the work. Is it their fault? Not completely, when they have a Sheriff who doesn't expect much from them, they aren't going to give much! I personally think that the only way that we are going to see change in the Sheriff's Dept. is for neither Cindy or Ron to become Sheriff. We need somebody that has a backbone and is ready to "clean house". However, I am smart enough to realize that our County will never vote a strong "outsider" into our Head County Position, because they may not be "nice" enough or they may ruffle some feathers! Well isn't that exactly what we need? I don't know about everybody else, but I don't vote for "nice" people who may be incompetent. I want to vote for somebody that wants to do THEIR JOB!!! I see so many post on these boards about how bad the cops in this town are and the prosecution is one-sided. You don't see many post about the Sheriff's Dept. because they don't arrest, or file reports, therefore they don't make people mad. It is about time that people see what really happens when a case is handled by the Sheriff's Deptment. It isn't! I know Cindy and all of her supporters on this board are correct, she is a very nice person with a big heart. However, those characteritics do not automotically make you a good law enforcement officer! It is such a shame that our voting for Sheriff standards have come to the question of who is the nicest. Unbelievable!
Actually the jail staff has only posted one comment, but it was not demeaning to officer Gillespie. Your right Cindy is wanting to make changes at the jail, changes that will cost more tax payers money.Just another in a long line of her bad decisions.
I would like to also apologize to the family that is first and foremost. You are in my thoughts and prayers.
Now on to what had been written thus far.
(1) Cindy's husband rides with her because she is incompetent and scared to be by herself. I am sure everyone in the county has seen him riding with her on more than one occasion.
(2) I do believe that it would be a liability risk to the county if something did happen while he was driving Moore's truck because he was with a Deputy on duty. Is that not why we have a Tow service for? HMMMMM
(3) If Cindy is such a "GOOD PERSON and NICE" and has all this law enforcement experience then why did she not investigate as to why his vehicle got to this location? Why was he bleeding and blood covered? She was told that he was beat up at Frank Hereford's yet she never did a follow-up? Why? Then she took it upon her self to get out of a report to have her husband drive him and the truck home tainting the evidence if there was any.
(3) Gillespie and Gray are the only ones running for Sheriff. Coleman is running for a Commissioners seat.
(4) As to why Coleman was never mentioned and only Gray called. Well when was the last time you heard Coleman take a report.
These are just my opinions which I am entitled too according to the constitution. Like them or not these are the facts and they are undisputed. And yes it is a crying shame that it took an incident like this to open the eyes of the Bourbon County voters before this so called "nice good person" was voted into office. God help Bourbon County if she does get voted in.
I see several things that cindy has done wrong as a seasoned law enforcement officer. Number One, she came across the truck, a man has claimed to have been beaten, the keys weren't in the truck, why botch any evidence that could have been in that truck by letting her husband drive it ruining any fingerprints that could have been there. When he says he was beat up at the Hereford home, why not check the welfare of mr. hereford, without saying the other man saying anything. The biggest question I have is was her radio broken when coming across this scene. So, in MY opinion, why should we elect someone who runs the risk of botching potential evidence as to the "whodunnit" I know I wouldn't. But obviously common sense was lacking in all parties involved that were uninjured because both Cindy and the other moved the person before really assessing injuries. The one thing that racks my brain is why is her husband along while she's on duty???
OMG I can't beleive that this has gone on this long.
First off, when you come upon someone who has been beaten this badly, as Herfies daughter says he was, you don't move them, this can cause more damage to the victim. You call 911 and get someone who knows what they are doing to help the person.
Secound, before you condem Cindy, you should walk in her shoes. She was ALREADY on a call when she came across this vehicle that Moore was in, and she checked it out. So what is wrong with that, he as far as I know did not tell Cindy that Herfie was beaten too. Just that he acording to the paper was beaten. So she took care of that problem first. You cannot force someone to go to the ER if they refuse treatment.
Third, this has turned into BASH Cindy, and am sure some of the posters are employed by the jail, and they are not wanting her to be sheriff, because of the changes she want's to make.
Now how about just praying that Herfie recovers so he can tell what happned to him, and that Moore will somehow regain enough of his memory to tell the truth about what went on. And that who ever or whom ever that did it will be put away for the crime they commited.
I know for a fact that the FSPD has backed up other deputy's that have needed help, and were close to the city limits. So why wasn't one dispatched to help Cindy, and if Bobby Reed was on duty, why wasn't he called to help out??? a lot of questions need to be answerd before you tar and feather Cindy.
Becky I am praying for your Dad, he is something special, always called me his girlfriend, and to you who have chosen to be judge and jury I pray for you too.
Who is to say Mr. Moore was intoxicated! He was taken home with no test done. Cindy's husband drove the mans truck and the man home. Now let's see...what if he would of wrecked the mans truck? County would of been paying for that decision.Cindys husband should NOT be with her. He is a x employee that got mad and walked out! Does he make all her decisions. Well, I should of thought before now. Maybe it was his decision to take the man home. Everyone is crying over the bad decisions that CINDY has made. It is about time she answered for them!! It's been a long time in the making. It is just sad that this happened before it was brought to light. And yes, Cindy is going to try her best to straighten up the mess SHE got herself in.
Interesting comment in the article, now that I've read it again, where she says "At this point, we have two victims. Lonnie Moore indicated he had been at Hereford's farm when he got beat up."
If you have two victims, does that mean there was a third (or more) person involved?
I think it's terrible what has happened. I heard about this from a friend who is related to Mr. Herford. I could not believe the story when he told me. It all seems a bit strange. First, when a officer comes upon a vehicle, whether pulling it over, or just checking on the vehicle, the officer will call in a tag number. This should have been done if it was not done. If the tag was checked, there would be a record of it in dispatch. If she was on duty, and did not radio in when approaching the vehicle, then that was a big problem. It all comes back to procedures. I don't think it's normal to approach a vehicle without radioing in first. Upon finding someone in the vehicle, an ID number or license number would have been called. The above items would clarify alot of things when it comes to a timeline of events, who came in contact with who, and which story is true. Just a thought to ponder...
i wish i could get my hands on the person that nearly beat an 85 year old man to death. does this person not have a heart? what is this world coming to? whoever is responsible for this crime, i hope you feel guilty. i hope this haunts you for the rest of your life.
Canady reported...
Canady said.
According to Canady...
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Canady said.
when Gray became aware of the situation, he decided to contact the Kansas Bureau of Investigations and ask for their assistance due to the extent of Hereford's injuries and several other variables in the case.
When was Sheriff Coleman notified???
Before I get started here let me say, I'm very sorry for what happened to these poor unfortunate people who were hurt so badly. And I pray that they have a speedy recovery. BUT let me tell you this I have known Cindy Gillispie for approximately 20 years. LONG before she was sheriff, you can not asked for a more honest, Good person. And I'M VERY PROUD to say not only do I believe she should be Bourbon County Sheriff, but I have PROUDLY VOTED EARLY for Cindy and would do it again if I could. ANYONE who has one bad thing to say about Cindy Gillispie does not know her. I do not believe Cindy would lie about anything. I think before people condemn her they better make sure everything they are hearing is the truth. I've lived in Fort Scott a long time and when I did not live here I lived close by. Fort Scott has always been a town where things get blown up to a great degree. And do not forget, there is two sides to every story. To Unsure in Fort Scott, slipknot1 and Absolutelydisgusted (just to name a few names that I remember reading what you wrote) CHILL until you have all the info. Or are you just looking for anything to blame Cindy for, to make someone else look better. You go Mskitty, you tell it like it is.
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i don't know the hereford family at all, but my thoughts and prayers go out to them. it makes me sick to think that someone could beat an 85 year old man this bad, and not have the conscience to do the right thing and turn themselves in and take their punishment like they deserve.
i don't personally know deputy gillespie. but i read this story this morning, and some things just didn't sound right to me in this case.
1) she just happened to "find" moore sitting in his truck on the side of the road, with the keys in the back of his truck??? how the hell do you think they got there? and he obviously had been driving drunk at some point to get to the side of the road from franks house! i highly doubt that someone else drove him there, placed him in the seat and threw his keys in the back. come on people. you can't really be that dumb! and for gillespie to have her husband of all people drive him home instead of arresting him for drunk driving, clearly shows a lack of responsibility and just plain laziness. lying to becky about taking moore home just shows that she is a liar.
2) i realize that officers here in town have the "ride along" program. but isn't that to learn more about the job in case you are curious about becoming one or are just interested in the life of an officer? if gillespie's husband used to be a deputy, and process server, i'm sure he knows what the job is all about. just sounds a little weird to me that he still wants to drive around like that.
3) the fact that moore got "beat up" at franks house, but can't remember who did it or give a description of what happened? if his injuries were serious enough for all that confusion, he surely needed to be seen by a dr. since he wasn't seen, i'm gonna guess it was the alcohol that had him so confused. which also shows even more that gillespie is covering something up by helping him home instead of taking him to jail.
4) knowing that there had been a crime that occurred at frank's house should have been reason enough for the scene to be taped off, and evidence collected. but to wait until an attorney is hired to do it? obviously shows that gillespie had no intentions of doing her job.
whatever your opinion on what happened, or what type of person gillespie is, etc. is not going to change anything. the main focus should be on the recovery of frank, and the capture and conviction of whoever did this to him. i personally would like to see the culprit strapped down and let frank's family give him the beating he deserves!!! how's that for justice?! :)
Very well stated "Ol-Timer". You made some excellent points!!!!!!!!!!!! I agree!
"Terri said the scene needed to be covered," Gillispie said. "I told her I couldn't do it because I was the only one on duty. She (Terri) said call for Ron (Undersheriff Ron Gray). So, I did."
Do you think maybe she was on another call....ummmm....
Bobby Reed was working....gee why was he not helping, never heard him on the scanner once....
makes you wonder why everything was put on Cindy Gillispie and why she didn't know that he was working and Ron had to be called in....ummmm....I would say I guess everyone needs to wait for the investigation to be finished to know the truth....
I think People should stop bashing Cindy, she would be a great Sheriff and has done a lot of good in this community....we all have our own views and that is our American right....No one person is perfect, and if you do know of one, hell more power to them.....
This should be about the two men that were beaten. If it was a fight between them or do we have someone on the loose that beat both of them....Until the facts are in.....Everyone should pray for the recovery of both men....
Wake up and smell the coffee people! Yes, Cindy Gillespie is a nice lady. But...she does not do her job!! This is not the first time she has dropped the ball. You are just not able to see past the " NICE". This became political when she put her name out there claiming to be the one for the job of Sheriff. She is the first one that states we need more patrol of the county. You can't patrol the county while sitting at Cowens Convience store for hours when you are on duty or at your good friends house. Cowens has security for sure when she is working.Now why isnt she out protecting the county!!Again, yes she is a nice lady. Great to visit with. She does not follow up on her reports,if she takes one. She did not intend to do a report on either man until she was forced too. She does not go on calls and refuses too. FACT!!There is so much more that many people know about that she does,that is not told. But..because she is a nice person everyone is blind to the real facts!! Seems her excuse for not getting things done is to say she was the only one on duty. I think there is more deputies than her that would go and help if she calls. Go ahead,vote Cindy Gillespie for sheriff. Hope your not on the end needing the help!! Jason Mallon-Ft. Scott
Accusations don't make it so..... I am talking about everything being said here regarding Cindy Gillispie. You can run your own agenda, but the facts will tell the story. Wait for the truth.
For Amy White's information you are not very well informed. Cindy's husband worked for the Sheriff Department as a deputy for seven years. AS the process server he served court papers for the sheriff until March 2008. Cindy's husband rode with Cindy,this gave Cindy a direction to travel plus he could get papers served to the people that worked and was not home days. This saved Bourbon County several dollars over the years. He still rides with her occasionally. I see other deputies have riders also.
Clearly the only reason some people are on this web site is to campaign and make Deputy Gillispie look bad. Have some morals.
The FACTS of the case??? Let's not convict anyone yet?? Cindy Gillespie is not guilty? She worked so MANY hours before driving a drunk home?? Come on PEOPLE wake up and smell the roses.
"Terri said the scene needed to be covered," Gillispie said. "I told her I couldn't do it because I was the only one on duty. She (Terri) said call for Ron (Undersheriff Ron Gray). So, I did."
Sounds to me like people are jumping to conclusions and trying to make Deputy Gillespie look bad, she has done a great deal of good for Bourbon County and I think she deserves a little more respect than people are giving her!
-- Posted by faith_2008 on Tue, Oct 21, 2008, at 12:58 PM
The FACTS are clear, crystal clear. I know for a fact that this is not the first time Gillespie has failed in the line of her duties. I also know that Gillespie was not the only Deputy on duty at the time of this incident. I believe and have knowledge that Deputy Bobby Reed was also on duty at this time.
"There was blood in the driveway and she (Gillespie) did nothing except lie to us." This is from a citizen who had her father beat up then a Deputy drive the possible suspect home then tried to cover her tracks and lie about it. Is this the kind of leadership Bourbon county needs? I do not feel safe with this kind of protection on the streets!!! PERIOD
It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out that Gillespie is not the choice for Bourbon County yet everyone assumes that she will get the JOB DONE!!! NOTTTTT!!! Lie or no lie.
Deputy Gray with all his experience realized that due to the facts and evidence surrounding this case he needed more help and called on the KBI for that help. All Gillespie wanted to do was sweep this under the rug because she didn't have time and was too lazy to take a call.
I would like everyone to listen to the scanner when she is on duty and tell me every time that she is dispatched for a call what happens. "Fort Scott I'm North of town and won't be able to get there in time" I have heard this several times over the scanner from our famous Sheriff "4". I also believe that if someone else was Sheriff Gillespie would not have a job right know.
I would suggest that everyone take note as to the facts of this case and vote for the right person on Nov. 4.
****RON GRAY FOR SHERIFF****
IT IS A CLEAR CHOICE EVEN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY KNOWS WHO TO GO TO IN A TIME OF NEED
And as far as more Deputies in Bourbon County? Well Commissioners need to address this issue and pay more than 13.00 an hour. Would you risk your life for $13.00 an hour. Respond to calls all by yourself, handle a crime in progress with a gun. Bourbon County is the lowest paying in Kansas. Yet we are a hub between KC and Joplin. Fort Scott and Bourbon County need to realize this and work together instead of against each other. Too many power hungry Commissioners want control and have been in office way to long. Do they really have a vision for Bourbon County and Fort Scott or a goal for self pleasure?
Some areas of Fort Scott are in question and the Police or Sheriffs department have no idea who has jurisdiction, because of this power struggle. If you don't believe me just ask one of them what the boundaries of the city are and you will get 20 different answers.
The choice is still clear
****VOTE RON GRAY FOR SHERIFF****
And the changes will be made and done. This is an elected Official and he can hire as many Deputies as he sees fit as long as it is within the budget given to him by the County Commissioners. Which is little to none. So who is to blame for this low budget?
Wow....Are you serious deputy Gillispe? You saw Frank at the hospital, you saw how badly he was beaten and you did absolutly nothing. You are digging yourself a deep, deep hole with all of your foolish lies. She in fact did not only lie to Frank's family but she is lying to the entire community with her ever-changing stories. The facts are facts and she is not even on this case at this time. You should truly be ashamed of yourself Gillispe. The facts are unclear about who exactly did the beating, but the KBI is handling that since Gillispe was obviously "too tired" to handle it. I am truly disgusted with the actions that Gillispe took with Mr. Moore, but I am even more disgusted with actions that she didn't take with the investigation.
I agree that Frank Hereford is a well respected citizen of Bourbon County and I wish him a speedy recovery. Frank is tough and he will recover.
I do believe that we need to wait for the investigation to be completed before we make judgment against Mr. Moore or Deputy Gillispie. Let's get the facts in.... before we judge others. There is plenty of time for the truth to be heard. Let's not make this crime a political issue because it is not.
Among my comments, I did get distracted and forgot to mention that I do wish both men a speedy recovery.
I have had the joy and pleasure to have known Mr Hereford and I treasure every momement spent with him.......I cant believe some sick mind could even think of hurting him......Becky my heart and prayers are with you ..........My question is who was the initial one to ask gillispe about finding mr.Moore? As the article really doesnt make that all to clear.......and heres another statement for those of you who are chosing to use this as a voice againt gillispe.......maybe she has done an incompedent job with this I do not know but lets not lose sight of what this is really about .. a wonderful loving father,grandfather,uncle and my favorite MY GREAT FRIEND and someone I'm proud to say I know needs to know how much we all care about him......
For those of you complaining about these posts getting political. Well, the fact is, this is election time and it just so happens that Gillispie,Gray and Coleman ARE currently running for an elected office.
Like it or not,aside from this being a crime, this will not "turn" political, it "is" political because of the nature and timing of event.
It is vital to have information on how something like this has/is/and will be handled.
Some points may be valid, some may not.
I for one know the Herefords very well, and so does a certain brother of mine, who happens to be very close to Becky and Frank.
From what I know the paper did some pretty accurate reporting. Is there anyone out there to dispute what the paper reported?
I have had the joy and pleasure to have known Mr Hereford and I treasure every momement spent with him.......I cant believe some sick mind could even think of hurting him......Becky my heart and prayers are with you ..........My question is who was the initial one to ask gillispe about finding mr.Moore? As the article really doesnt make that all to clear.......and heres another statement for those of you who are chosing to use this as a voice againt gillispe.......maybe she has done an incompedent job with this I do not know but lets not lose sight of what this is really about .. a wonderful loving father,grandfather,uncle and my favorite MY GREAT FRIEND and someone I'm proud to say I know needs to know how much we all care about him......
amywhite.....Do you know for 100% fact that she lied about the keys? Do you know if the man was even legally drunk? It was said that a crime did not occur because the keys were not in the ignition. How do you know that the statement was false? Were you there? If you WERE there then maybe everyone needs to start bashing you because you obviously did not do your job as a citizen to stop what you think was an obvious wrong done by a deputy....... So, still, we cant judge or say anything because WE DONT KNOW THE ENTIRE STORY!
No thats not a good thing. She shouldnt have lied about the keys being in the back of the truck and done her job and arrested him. How would you feel if she "did her job" and drove him home to sleep it off and then he left and killed one of your family members cause she was so nice to let him sleep it off at home. Thanks god that didnt happen. She should have taken him to jail. As for the injuries thats her call.
I don't know any of the sheriff candidates from Adam, but this turned from story about a local senior nearly getting beaten to death into a political mess in a hurry. There is something missing to this story, but for the life of me I can't figure out what it is.
Can we say "POLITICAL MOTIVATION"? Give it a rest. Cindy Gillespie does not deserve the kind of smut being thrown at her. The truth will be known when the KBI gets all the facts. Please wait for the truth to be known. Sounds like we do not have enough manpower in the Sheriff's department??
None of us were there. None of us know what really went down. None of us can judge. I see the same people posting in here that have posted (in the past) about how the Tribune never posts the whole story or they report it incorrectly, so why are you bashing Ms. Gillispie now when you dont really even know what happened? I think its amazing how quickly people can form an opinion about someone when they dont know anything about the situation or the person. Im not saying that some of you have never met Ms. Gillispie, but im reasonably sure that not all of you have, so how can you judge her as a person? There was a reason she did what she did, when she did it and until we know what that reason is we cant say a doggone thing about it.
The only thing I got out of this story was the she ran across a guy in a truck, and if he is a known alcoholic like some folks have said he is, maybe she was just making sure he made it home to sleep it off. So when you get right down to it, she took a possible inebriated person off the streets. Isnt that a good thing? If his injuries looked that bad im sure, with all the training she has received over the years, she would call 911. So there are things lurking in the background that werent included in this story as to why things were done as they were.
The story says that the local law enforcement departments and the KBI are taking care of the situation. So lets let them take care of it and bring our own stress levels down please. Everyone getting online and bashing everyone else is not going to make a lick of difference in anything......
I do wish a speedy recovery to Mr. Hereford and Mr. Moore and I do want the families of these folks to know that they are in my thoughts.
I do not see how the facts are not there. Cindy clearly did not have the time to take appropriate action when she encountered the truck with a bleeding man inside. She had her husband drive him home? (Which I have spotted her several times around town and in the county with him in the passenger's seat, it seems to me that she obviously cannot do her job alone). DUI or not, if the man was bleeding she should not have taken him home, he needed a hospital. Tampering with evidence is also something even a rookie on a force would know not to do. Cindy has been an officer for at least ten years. Then above all, she lied about the entire incident. Do we really want her for BB County Sheriff? I think NOT! She shouldn't even be on as an officer let alone Sheriff. Under Sheriff Ron Gray took affirmative action when notified of the situation. He realized that the case was beyond the powers of the Sheriff's office and called the KBI. I do not believe it is fair to associate Cindy's wrongful actions with Ron Gray. He has always done a great job, both as a deputy and Under Sheriff. The choice is clear on November 4th!!!!!!!!
more deputies like her? are you kidding me? she let her husband drive home a drunk guy, do you seriously think the keys were in the back of the guys truck, I mean come on, why would his keys be in the back? Sounds like a good excuse to get out of doing another call. Sounds like she was to scared to do anything about it, for god sake everytime I see her she has her husband ridding around with her doing her job for her. you mise well give him a gun and a deputy car.
Deputy Gilliespie was not arrested or charged with a crime, YET she seems to be convicted of one on this.
I have known her for years and she is a dedicated law enforcement officer, she treats everyone with respect, which is something I see lacking here.
She is a caring person, who goes out of her way to help people, yet most of you have convicted her for doing her job, we need more deputys like her.
Ron Gray is the Under Sheriff who is Cindys direct supervisor, then Sheriff Harold Coleman. Who are both scared to do anything. Trust me this is not hearsay this is facts people and its sad! Im just glad for Franks family that its the KBI handling this and not the Sheriffs Office.
I think there are many unanswered questions to this and such internal issues could have been left out pending any needed investigations. This seems to have turned from a piece about an injured man to a political railroad. There are too many unknowns to be so quick to condemn our deputies. From the way people post on here, it is like there was an audience to know exactly what happened. Since that is not the case, people should not be so quick to judge. Something terrible happened and we should let our law enforcement sort it out.
First of all, my heart goes out to the Hereford family.
Secondly, you all need to be patient and let the KBI do their job before all this rush to judgment against Cindy Gillespie and Mr. Moore. The facts will come out.
All the comments against Cindy Gillespie just sound political to me. Let the facts be established people!!!
You have heard she has done this before....Is this more hearsay??????
If I believed everything I heard & the rumors or hearsay. Geez, none of our officials, from police, bbso, courts ect... would be working or trusted....WAIT TILL ALL THE FACTS ARE IN BEFORE JUDGEMENT IS MADE.
Actually, Cindy's boss is Harold who is running for county commissioner. The other candidate running for sheriff is another deputy, Ron Gray. I have heard also that Cindy has done this before.
This is not the first time Cindy has done something like this. let me tell you its about time she got caught in a lie. I seriously hope they terminate her. They need to step up down there at the Sheriffs Department and grow a pair and fire her and not worry about what the citizens will think. She prob wont loose her job as her boss is running for sheriff to and will think he will loose votes if he fires her, but if they seriously care about the citizens of bourbon county they will do there job and let her go. Bourbon County will be safer with her off the streets.
CALM DOWN EVERYONE!
How many people do we need to attack? I have read this story several times and I still do not have enough facts to form an honest opinion. There are several concerns that I have about this, but I will wait until I know more about all the events and the timing of the events. Simply there are not enough facts here to form an honest opinion. In the mean time let's all pray for Frank to recover.
One word.... ETHICS! An unethical officer should be an ex-officer. Enough said!
Who's to say they asked him if he need an Ambulance and He said no Just take me home. Well you would take the Guy Home.
Then Who's to say they didn't go by Mr. Hereford's house and his Daughter had already taken him to the hospital. Know one knows how long Mr. Moore was in that Truck on the Side of the Road. This is just My obversvation from Reading this Article and Reading the Flaming going on in the Posts.
It is unfortunate that politics have to play a role in "sound" (and I use that term loosely) journalism, but in the article written by Rayma Silvers, it certainly seems like that is the case. Let me first say that I am not politcally inclined to voting for Cindy Gillispie or Ron Gray or anyone else that may be running for sheriff. My point is that after reading that article I was appalled by the poor quality of journalism exemplified by Ms. Silvers. Furthermore, I was flabbergasted that a newspaper would dare print it, well, unless you had another agenda. In any case, it gives me some relief that I don't subscribe to the newspaper, and further credence to never stoop to that level.
I think people need to wait for the facts to come in before we start making actuations. I would hate to have any of you as judge and jury. Most of the fact on this case are not even in and you have 2 people convicted and sent up river. Yes this is a horrendous crime and justice needs to be done but you people are jumping the gun. I think your also missing the point here that maybe we need to have more officers in BBCO it sounds to me like the ones we have are being worked way to may hours.
This is despicable, sounds to me like some people don't have lives and just sit around assuming the "he said, she said", why don't you try to get out of Fort Scott once in a while and you would realize there is a world out there and that there is other things to do than sit around and trash somebody!
Let's think about all the people on here trashing Cindy because of personal opinion, instead of getting the facts and talking intelligently about what really happened. Should we really listen to what these rude people have to say, that don't have any intellect?
Sounds to me like people are jumping to conclusions and trying to make Deputy Gillispie look bad, she has done a great deal of good for Bourbon County and I think she deserves a little more respect than people are giving her!
Why is Under sheriff Gray being implicated in the crime committed by Deputy Gillespie. It seems to me that he acted professionally and responded immediately after being contacted by Gillespie. Lets not cut the whole tree down because of one very bad piece of fruit. She needs to withdraw her candidacy.
How is Ron Gray implicated in the crime that Gillespie committed? He was called in by the guilty officer. Seems to me that he acted responsibly and responded immediately upon being notified. Lets not cut the tree because of one very bad piece of fruit.
I think each and every citizen of Bourbon County needs to realize how, although very unfortunate the situation with Mr. Hereford, extremely important this event is.
Politics and elections aside, wouldn't it be more just to look at the big picture. How the county Sheriff's office has lacked as a whole. Granted that Gillispie happened to be the one on duty during the occurrence, but had it been Ron Gray or any other deputy on call would they have done any better? Or if anyone of Bourbon County's citizens had been thrown into the situation, what would you have done?
Surely by now you are thinking "I'm not a sheriff, that's not my job!" Maybe not, but consider this. But who does the government work for? Its citizens, everyday people that rely on the services of the county government. Protecting Bourbon County may not be your job, but providing that we have intelligent, hardworking, selfless people in public office is your job. The team is only as good as its leader. Who trained Gillespie? Now, who trained the person who trained him or her? It can all go back to how they were taught how to deal with each situation.
Do your job citizen's of Bourbon County! Demand better government, elect people who will work for the betterment of the county and challenge those who don't bring results!
I think there are a several things to consider here.
My initial thought is that deputy Gillespie should not have just taken Moore home. If HIS injuries were serious, this could lead for all sorts of problems for the sheriff's department and Ms. Gillespie for failing to get him the proper medical treatment he may have needed. If he was injured (which it appears he was), EMS should have been called.
Second, if Moore was "beat up at Frank Hereford's house," as he stated, then a crime had been committed & should have been investigated as such. Had that been done, Mr. Hereford would have possibly been found earlier rather than being left to lay out on the ground until his grandson saw him. If Gillespie needed help, they surely have procedures in place to get that help in an emergency. Once Ron Gray was called, KBI was also involved. It sounds to me like he recognized the need for more expertise than what they had available & the right ones were called to assist. He used good judgment and perhaps the KBI should also look into how this was handled to begin with by BBSO.
Third, we don't know what happened to start this argument. I don't know those involved but it sounds as though there was alcohol involved. So, who started the fight? Most likely, one started it and the other was trying to defend himself and it got out of control. I don't see anywhere in the article where it says how the argument began or who started the fight. We need to get all the information before trying to blame anyone.
It's too bad that things had to come to this point and I truly hope that everyone heals from their injuries. This should also be a learning experience for both men. It sounds like there are changes that need to be made in their lives before someone's is destroyed.
WHERE ARE THE VALUES AND MORMALS OF THE PEOPLE IN FORT SCOTT ? VOTING FOR CHARACTERS LIKE MRS. GILLISPIE NEED TO BE EXAMIMED. SHE STATED THAT THAT THEY TOOK CARE OF MOORE. IN WHAT CAPACITY WAS THE HELP.. COVERING UP THE EVIDENCE OF A SERIOUS CRIME ???? MOORE IS AND ALWAYS HAS BEEN IN TROUBLE. HE IS A ALCOLOLIC AND HAS BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH BEATINGS BEFORE. CINDY QUIT TAKING THINGS IN YOUR OWN HANDS, YOU ARE GOING TO BRING EVERYONE DOWN WITH YOU..
Isn't everyone jumping the gun, Innocent until proven guilty is what we are to uphold when a person is arrested....Why then is our law enforcement not? All the facts are not in and you all seem to just jump and go after Cindy, this sounds like people voting for someone else and trying to discredit Cindy....She has done a wonderful job in her position, so give credit where credit is due, and wait for all the facts to make your decision.
An investigation is ongoing and all facts will be clear when this investigation is over. Deputy Gillispie worked an eight hour shift,before calling Undersheriff Ron Grey. Deputy Gillispie, Undersheriff Ron Grey, and Two K.B.I. agents worked an additial nineteen hours. This is total of Twenty Seven hours Deputy Gillispie worked with a two hour break from eight am to ten am Sunday Morning. So let us not make judgements until we know all the facts.
This article raises a whole lot of questions, many of which need to be answered before the election, as we have not just Cindy Gillispie involved in this crime, but Ron Gray and Sheriff Coleman, ALL of whom are running for election in November.
I sincerely hope that the newspaper, stays on top of this continuing story.
I'm speechless. Why wasn't 911 called in both cases? Surely a member of the police force should know not to disturb a scene that could be potentially a crime scene. If I had found someone in a truck all bloody, I would have immediately called for the paramedics. I agree with others, this definitely decides my vote.
I was absolutely appalled when I heard about this. Frank Hereford is a good man and definitely didn't deserve this. I sincerely hope that the dirt ring who did this feels better about themselves because in the end, Karma will prevail. Is your life so pathetic that you had to beat up on a 85 year old man? Good Lord! Whoever did this deserves to be convicted on attempted capitol murder charges. Take a trip to the big house and see how well your life goes from there. Let those folks check you in! Such a P.O.S.!!!!!
Becky, I am so sorry for what you are having to go through! I can not even imagine! Stay strong and know that Frank will pull through.
As for Gillepsie? Well, go figure! Did you really think she would tell the truth?
You go Becky! It's about time that folks around Fort Scott heard the truth about some of their law enforcement! Very few are true.....But, wait, some want her to run Bourbon County? OMG.....isn't that par for the course...I am absolutely disgusted!
Becky, please know that you and your family are in our daily prayers. In the end, true justice will get who did this to him and ultimately, that person will pay for this horrendous crime!
This is the hard core proof that this is not the woman to run the county! If she doesn't investigate crimes and claims that she doesn't have "time" to secure crime scenes....isn't that what she is paid to do!?!? We entrust our safety to these officers and this is the type of service we get? Are we safe in Ft.Scott? Obviously not! Anyone with a brain would have found out where this happened and gone there to see who did it or what the crime scene looked like. What's her excuse? Was she a little to busy to do her job!? Tell me that there is a better candidate for the job than this woman who can't seem to make time the "time" to do her job right. She definitely won't be getting my vote!! We need to make sure she doesn't make it into office!
Are you kidding me? Deputy Gillispe had her husband drive a drunk, bloody man home and did not investigate then lied about it? And she is running for Sheriff?? I pity our county if she becomes our sheriff. We do not need someone who lets crimes occur then lies about it!!
SOUNDS KINDA A FISHY TO ME...HUH DEPUTY GILLISPIE AND THE PEOPLE OF BOURBON COUNTY WANT HER FOR THE NEXT SHERIFF. WHAT IF SHE IS TOO BUSY AND IS THE ONLY ONE OUT AND YOU NEED HER HELP...WHAT DO YOU DO?